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Author Topic: 10 lug hub/adapter  (Read 3260 times)

HOFF

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10 lug hub/adapter
« on: February 21, 2016, 09:26:59 PM »
Ok I'm building a tow truck and I have the 10 lug Dana 80 rear. I'm looking for the front hubs/adapters for the 4x4 10 lug axle. Any help with finding or if have a pair let me know. Greatly appreciate any help. I've been searching the internet and can't find anything.
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 11:04:51 AM »
Hey, Tony! And welcome. I'd be surprised if you found a set of 10 lug hubs for a HD. Do you already have a Dana 70 front? Or Dana 60? If it's either and they're 8 bolt now you might have better luck looking for a wheel adapter.
https://www.fleetwheel.com/about.html Is where you might find adapters made to order. Most other sites don't custom build. I keep an eye out all the time for Dana 70 fronts and any 10 lug hub and haven't seen anything besides when I bought the Dana 70 for mine off craigslist
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 12:18:57 PM »
No I don't have a 60 or 70 I have a hd 44 but I didn't know it was going to be so difficult to find the 10 lug parts. I priced custom adapters was around 3000 bucks just for the 2. Way to expensive for 2 adapters. Semi ones are under 1000, but can't use them on the rear. I don't want to have 10 lug on back and 8 up front. I like everything to match.

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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 07:13:13 PM »
Yup. I don't think the HD44 is large enough. I'm sure it would hold the initial weight of the HD but hit the wrong bump or load it enough and something might give. The knuckles on my 70 are huge compared even to a 60. It's easier to find a whole 4x4 HD truck than it is to find the 4x4 parts. There are about three on Craigslist right now nation wide
1999 chevy HD 4x4 135.5" 6.5 nv4500 bw4470 Dana 70 HP 10 lug front

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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 07:46:33 PM »
Well I understand that these trucks are heavy, but the truck I have the 80 in isn't a 3500 hd truck. It actually is a 1950 Chevy 6100 I bought what was left of a 94 3500 hd tow truck. I used the whole rear suspension and axle on the 50. I am using the wrecker box from the truck as well. I don't want a whole truck just need the axle. Thanks for the link on the axle. Wasn't there other trucks that had 10 lug wheels with the same pattern? I thought I read that Ford and dodge also had the 4x4 conversion with 10 lug?

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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2016, 07:14:59 AM »
Yeah, ford did have a 10 lug front Dana 70 in their 90s F-super duty. Not sure of the bolt pattern. And something to look out for if you do find a ford or dodge version is the hub diameter( the center stub that slips through the center whole in the rim. Dodge sometimes ran a bit smaller than ford or Chevy. Great find with that axle on eBay!
1999 chevy HD 4x4 135.5" 6.5 nv4500 bw4470 Dana 70 HP 10 lug front

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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2016, 07:19:03 AM »
I'd also like to note that the axle in the eBay link does indeed have some sort of a hub adapter. You can see eight bolts on the back side of the wheel mounting flange and ten on the front. That'd be pretty neet to have and get more machines using that one as a referance
1999 chevy HD 4x4 135.5" 6.5 nv4500 bw4470 Dana 70 HP 10 lug front

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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 12:22:12 PM »
I had talked to a place called Motorsport tech before I found and modified my ford hubs, that would make a two piece adapter like that no problem.

At least I hope that's a two piece, as at least two of the lug holes will overlap no matter what way you turn the 8x6.5 and 10x7.25.
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2016, 02:06:16 PM »
In the 4x4 conversion section says stuff about them being adapters machined to fit or something along those lines also says about Ford  hubs or adapters. In the 4x4 conversion section says stuff about Ford  hubs or adapters. But I'm not sure if was about using them or not. Raymond What did you have to do to the Ford adapters to fit?
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2016, 01:29:07 AM »
The adapter is a 5" wide chunk of steel with flanges on each end. To make the ford adapters work I had to:

- Cut outside flange of gm hub to fit inside the adapter, true up the inside flange for the adapter to butt up square.
-Ream the lug stud holes to fit the gm 5/8" studs, as the ford used 9/16".

Then they're held on by socket cap bolts from the back side of the hub. So it goes rotor-dually hub-adapter.
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2016, 01:30:47 AM »
Also had to turn down the hub pilot to 5.25" from 5.46". Didn't leave much but its enough to hold the wheel.
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2016, 09:10:28 PM »
Thanks for the link to that front axle 6669charger, I just picked that D70 front up today. It cost more than I would have liked, but it is pretty hard to find to begin with and with the 10 lug adapters it is even harder. Now if I can get the adapters duplicated I can match up my other 4wd hd too. :)
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95 C3500HD medium wheel base 11' bed 6.5/4L80E/D80 4.63
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2016, 01:14:28 AM »
http://motorsport-tech.com/

These guys can make adapters for anyone interested, they have already done a few similar sets for newer superdutys.
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Re: 10 lug hub/adapter
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2016, 05:49:05 PM »
Thanks for the link! This version I have should be easy to do so that it can be used with any 8 on 6.5 dually hub. It might help others looking to do what you did with a Dana 60 or 70  lug dually front on their HD.
94 K3500HD (factory Monroe 4wd upfit) short wheel base 9' bed 454 no more/NV4500HD/NP261HD/D70 frt/D80 rear 5.13's Cummins powered with 3.73's.
93 C3500HD long wheel base parts truck 14' bed 6.5(gone)/NV4500HD/D80 4.63
95 C3500HD medium wheel base 11' bed 6.5/4L80E/D80 4.63
2000 C3500HD Monroe extended cab 9' bed, 6.5/4l80E/D80HD 4.63 will become 4wd with D70 front and repowered some day...

 


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